Curse

Killed u man · Nov 03, 2010, 06:30 PM // 18:30

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Originally Posted by Missing HB

1- Can you tell me then why are people still insisting on running same " balanced " for years now if it's so crap compared to BBWay? Aswell , can you tell me why is it always balanced holding halls ?? There are builds which are a lot easier an dedicated to beat BBway easily...

2-If all builds that beat your team are nerfed , then they d'rather close HA. Why? , simply because r12 common bala beats obviously r6 bala....+ the fact that there will be even less players than now ...

Just to say , BBway isn't that Overpowered. The simple fact is that it beats too easily low ranked/inexped teams. But , tbh , isn't it the same for common r12 bala ?

Stop comparing balanced (or any non buttonbashway) to bbsway (or any buttonbashway). If you can't see the basic differences between them, you should re-educate yourself in GW PvP, and study the basics of "skill", "reward" and "balance".

I'm not a balanced player. I'm a player who plays balanced. (Unlike WoOm or some other HA guilds who dedicated the past 3 years on running nothing but the same exact bars) I ran (and still do if I play) every build out there that exist, and I've never sticked to one build (Despite what ignorant clowns who immediatly call me "ritspiker" when they see my name solely because they don't know any better).

BBsway getting nerfed hasn't got anything to do with personal motives, nor for me, nor for most other people in this thread. I (we?) want it nerfed because it is builds like these that pushed HA down the shitter over the past 5 years, because they require nearly no skill or coordination to run, anyone can run them, and the game becomes a rock-paper-scissor like format.

This is why all the good players left, and all that is left now are all the lower ranked "new" players who will never learn how to proporly play PvP because ALL they do is play the same shitbars day in, day out. Then you also have the current high-tier of HA which consists of nothing but the trashway players from the past 2-3 years, who still run nothing but the build they've been running since they started HA. (Be it because they can't play anything else, or because they don't know how to)

This goes in general for PvP:

I gues you can argue it's too late to fix anything, for GvG, HA or any format, but you can atleast try to show the community you give a shit about PvP solely people like me have a reason to still buy GW2.

Corporeal Ghost · Nov 03, 2010, 09:52 PM // 21:52

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Originally Posted by Reverend Dr

Actually I hate the way flail has empowered hammer KD's.
(...)
I love this idea, but not for the reasons it was posted.

Just felt like that deserved some emphasis.

We Play ''Fragway'' Alot · Nov 04, 2010, 09:51 AM // 09:51

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Originally Posted by Killed u man

BBswayer indahouse.

Almost as sad as Rezz Annna always trying to defence his hexway and how it requires more skill to run than balanced or most other builds.

But ye, there definatly is a problem with the BBwarrior.

You can build wars any bar out there, so going by that logic, no build is overpowered, but I don't expect you to understand.

Anyways, when BBsway is nerfed, I hope shitsins, esurge and hexway die too, fast. Those are the most unfun builds ever known to HA, all at the same time. Pretty much whatever was left of my HA friendlist stopped playing in recent months solely because PvE'ers have completely overrun HA with these redicilously overpowered easy-to-run fast farm gimmicks.

Sry i didnt saw that i wrote that im a bbswayer must have missed that 1. I hate bbsway myself just as much as i hate e-dinial. I dont play alot of lamebuilds. Yh mabye when im bored or somthing. But the thing i hate more is people bothering anet for nerfs, couz people will replace bbsway with somthing else anyway and then you guys got somthing else to cry about. So best thing to do as i alrdy posted find a way to deal with it.

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Originally Posted by Killed u man

it is builds like these that pushed HA down the shitter over the past 5 years, because they require nearly no skill or coordination to run, anyone can run them, and the game becomes a rock-paper-scissor like format.

This is why all the good players left, and all that is left now are all the lower ranked "new" players who will never learn how to proporly play PvP because ALL they do is play the same shitbars day in, day out. Then you also have the current high-tier of HA which consists of nothing but the trashway players from the past 2-3 years, who still run nothing but the build they've been running since they started HA. (Be it because they can't play anything else, or because they don't know how to)

This goes in general for PvP:

I gues you can argue it's too late to fix anything, for GvG, HA or any format, but you can atleast try to show the community you give a shit about PvP solely people like me have a reason to still buy GW2.

This part is true i do feel what you are saying. But understand this what i try to tell. Its like this if anet nerfs bbsway people will come up with somthing else anyway. So it got no use to nerf stuf. It a endles chain of button pressers that cant run builds that require some coordination and brains. And therefore make lame builds so the can sit back and relax while pressing 1-2-3-4-5-6 over and over.

bungusmaximus · Nov 04, 2010, 12:42 PM // 12:42

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Originally Posted by We Play ''Fragway'' Alot

But the thing i hate more is people bothering anet for nerfs, couz people will replace bbsway with somthing else anyway and then you guys got somthing else to cry about. So best thing to do as i alrdy posted find a way to deal with it.

Without updates to shake the meta up every now and then the game woudve gotten old ages ago imo.

We Play ''Fragway'' Alot · Nov 04, 2010, 01:30 PM // 13:30

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Originally Posted by bungusmaximus

Without updates to shake the meta up every now and then the game woudve gotten old ages ago imo.

Wow first good argument why nerfs are good.(no sarcasem)

diabiosx · Nov 04, 2010, 05:10 PM // 17:10

I also agree that Backbreaker isnt the problem with the build. IMO SoulTwisting is what needs to be fixed. Union Shelter and Displacement has basically killed 99% of the spikes out there, most notably rspike.

Killed u man · Nov 04, 2010, 06:00 PM // 18:00

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Originally Posted by diabiosx

I also agree that Backbreaker isnt the problem with the build. IMO SoulTwisting is what needs to be fixed. Union Shelter and Displacement has basically killed 99% of the spikes out there, most notably rspike.

While soul twisting is definatly imbalanced, it's not the core of the problem with BBSway. I would even say that Brutal Weapon alone is more of a problem than the rest of the bar.

If ST gets nerfed, it'll just get replaced by whatever, and it'll still be an "unbeatable" build.

You need to understand that the ST bar is all added defence on an already strong backline.

BBsway has got a PnH with prots, 2 prisms (or even better rits with 12 second lasting weapon spells), a Ranger which absorbs alot of damage (his spirits need to die, or get interrupted) and 3 warriors which are constantly linebacking and KD'ing casters.

The Rit bar now just serves as a filler, because the build itself is already so strong with the 7 man set-up. ST just provided a synergy which made it even stronger.

If ST gets nerfed, what's going to stop people from running Ward against melee, stability and elements? (Which is lol defence aswell) Or make him go /P with Stand Your Ground and watch your intire backline become tanks.

The fact that the skills on his bar (with the exception of brutal weapon) are fully optional, there's always going to be a redicilous amount of defence on it. It is, however, the rest of the build which allows this rit to take so much defence in the first place.

diabiosx · Nov 04, 2010, 06:46 PM // 18:46

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Originally Posted by Killed u man

While soul twisting is definatly imbalanced, it's not the core of the problem with BBSway. I would even say that Brutal Weapon alone is more of a problem than the rest of the bar.

If ST gets nerfed, it'll just get replaced by whatever, and it'll still be an "unbeatable" build.

You need to understand that the ST bar is all added defence on an already strong backline.

BBsway has got a PnH with prots, 2 prisms (or even better rits with 12 second lasting weapon spells), a Ranger which absorbs alot of damage (his spirits need to die, or get interrupted) and 3 warriors which are constantly linebacking and KD'ing casters.

The Rit bar now just serves as a filler, because the build itself is already so strong with the 7 man set-up. ST just provided a synergy which made it even stronger.

If ST gets nerfed, what's going to stop people from running Ward against melee, stability and elements? (Which is lol defence aswell) Or make him go /P with Stand Your Ground and watch your intire backline become tanks.

The fact that the skills on his bar (with the exception of brutal weapon) are fully optional, there's always going to be a redicilous amount of defence on it. It is, however, the rest of the build which allows this rit to take so much defence in the first place.

With ST gone you bring back spikes(mainly rspike) which basically means that BBsway will be having a hard time getting fame since its soo easy to spike down warriors with hammers/daggers.

Fluffy Kittens · Nov 04, 2010, 10:28 PM // 22:28

BB doesn't need a nerf... it's weak build and should stay the way it is. If you're bad you lose to bbway if you're good you win it's simple as that.
I know I win

cantalus · Nov 05, 2010, 03:45 AM // 03:45

i meant the team build, not the skill, obviously i could've been clearer

cantalus · Nov 05, 2010, 03:46 AM // 03:46

also, seen u lose to bbway anna

vinoth · Nov 06, 2010, 05:43 PM // 17:43

It does need a nerf. Its bloody op. 1 war can keep a target on the ground indefitly if IH is up. Imagine ur prot and rit getting into that chain?

Also, BB is too op on relics in hoh. Dash makes them run through wards with ease.

superraptors · Nov 12, 2010, 01:37 AM // 01:37

half blades of steel dmg imo 180+ unconditional is pretty op'ed